tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6527171481755503539.post7109510732171294777..comments2024-01-15T00:37:41.436-08:00Comments on greenormal: GrowthJohn Granthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05799770191061315053noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6527171481755503539.post-38114041292902708452009-01-18T01:53:00.000-08:002009-01-18T01:53:00.000-08:00Hi Nick, happy new year. yes someone I'm working w...Hi Nick, happy new year. yes someone I'm working with got so interested in all of this that he visited the slavery museum in liverpool. One thing he found was a very early version of 'fair trade' style consumerism: "East India Sugar. Not made by Slaves. By six families using East India, instead of West India Sugar, one less slave is required." Overall it seems that the idea spread first and in time turned into action; eg as Jules pointed out a while back, Jefferson wrote the declaration of independence "with a cellar full of slaves". Progress always makes us hypocrites while we play catch up?John Granthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05799770191061315053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6527171481755503539.post-57541789275029563972009-01-17T09:39:00.000-08:002009-01-17T09:39:00.000-08:00The slave thought is an interesting one John - Ber...The slave thought is an interesting one John - Berry and I were thinking and talking about that analogy just before Christmas. The questions is: what changes took place in society whereby slavery became unacceptable? Where did this start? Who started it? How was it propogated? The answers to these questions may help us understand how we create and develop a social expectation whereby it's not OK live in an unsustainable way. Answers on a postcard please!! Meantime, I'm off for a bottle of Westons - marvellous stuff!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6527171481755503539.post-21355642533607378312009-01-16T06:57:00.000-08:002009-01-16T06:57:00.000-08:00interesting piece by time jackson in new scientist...interesting piece by time jackson in new scientist<BR/>http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026786.100-special-report-why-politicians-dare-not-limit-economic-growth.html?full=trueJohn Granthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05799770191061315053noreply@blogger.com